this is part two to the video why is my roof bridge sagging and I'm going to motor on through this thing I got a lot of pictures in here so first thing I would like to suggest is using a chain a couple of chains you can attach the chain to the wall with a lag screw here's a lag screw and a couple of washers you might get a lag screw that has a smaller washer just get some bigger washers keep stacking them up until you get through the chain now you can also run a bolt through the plate you can put a two by six on the outside over the stucco or the siding to run like an eight foot or something like that use that along with lag screws or other hardware sa support board the lag screws might not be enough you might put a lag screw in there and it's not strong enough if that's the case then you might need to go with another method and I would use a turnbuckle in the middle you could use something else I've used all threads before and just ran or or a bolt ran the bolt through the chain links and tighten it up that way and you could always make a plate like I was saying and attach other lag screws through it can you drill right through the top plates and put something on the top or the bottom yes you can as long as a you know as long as you feel comfortable with it can you use the rafters yes you can too you can use the rafters to attach the chains to now you can actually pull the walls in and the roof won't move it'll just separate from the rafter so it might be better to use the rafters or a combination of both the chain attached to the walls and a couple of chains attached to the raptors how many chains you need that will be up to you and maybe just one in the center will be fine you might need three or four around the center area or spread out evenly there's a good chance that the walls won't fix the SAG in the roof if you just pull them in with a chain you're going to need to raise them as you go with some type of a jack in post system like this so you will Jack the ridge up tighten the chains tighten the chains up move the ridge vice-versa until you start getting some action here here's another method you could use if you need to use the space and you can't leave the jacks here with the support brace or the support posts you can actually just build yourself some type of a system here and again you can get a little creative you don't have to use my method but this ought to give you a good idea of what you can do too if you do need to use the area below or this might just work better for you if you have a wood floor and you don't want to be putting a lot of pressure on the wood floor also post supporting posts and a supporting beam let's remove the roof we have a lot of stuff in here a couple of support braces we don't want this moving but we're not going to be able to attach it to the walls or at least it's going to need to move a little bit as we pull the walls in so again you might be able to use a different type of system but something needs to prevent this thing from moving in each direction use these braces here to prevent it from moving this way use the braces like angled braces to use it prevent it from moving the other way chains again post sitting on the concrete the beam sitting on the post let's run through this there's that braces posts to the beam the gap between the wall so that it can move you can always use straps to attach everything together some type of building Hardware braces Jaxson the post put the roof back on not a bad idea to use a strap like this some type of a building hardware even some plywood to prevent the post from falling once you start to raise the ridge with a jack and a post like this and this gets a gap between it this piece can actually fall down well if you're underneath it this isn't going to feel good so make sure that you attach it I'm gonna be attached at the bottom yeah I can but you I think your shims you're going to be better off putting your shims at the bottom but I'll leave that up to you as long as this post doesn't fall down and clobber you then you can put your shims wherever now I did I have not mentioned if this is a wood floor wood frame floor then the floor might need to be supported underneath the floor concrete might not need to be well you're not going to be able to support it but a wood floor you might need to a wood frame for with joist in sheathing you might need to install some type of support underneath the floor otherwise you'll end up fixing the sag in your roof and have a sag in there in your floor so that's not going to be good we don't want to create another problem by solving one problem I think make a nun repair and fixing something here's something else you could experience with the chains and all the bracing the jacking you could actually end up pulling one wall in one wall will move and the other won't if that's the case you might need to install some braces to prevent the wall from moving that's already straightened out and then put pressure on the other wall to try and get it to come back in braces can be installed in some cases you can just put a longboard going all the way across fasten it to the plate and you can always attach it to the concrete or to the wood floor and then install the braces at around a 45 degree angle and you might need to install the braces you might not be able to install them this way they might actually need to be installed to the framing plates it all depends on how much pressure you install something like this and the framing plates will move or the board here will stay in place but this one here will pull that way and making our making a problem worse you can always use some type of building hardware to attach the framing studs to the wall framing plates maybe put in a thirty five bond some type of a framing anchor like that Simpson a 35 might work or some type of other angled hardware but again you might be able to just attach the brakes to the framing plate and solve your problem and just nail it or screw it to the bottom and you should be good to go okay you have solved your problem everything's looking good the ridge is straight or straight as it's going to be the walls are straight as they're going to be and if that's the case that would be a good time to start installing the ceiling joist or the rafter ties that were not installed in the first place that actually created the problem four foot on center is the minimum distance and it can be less but it cannot be more two by six two by four for a twentieth this would all depend on what type of a span you have if it's a garage that's 20 foot by 20 foot you can actually use two by fours that are 20 footers for your garage types but if you have you know you've already have a problem you know I want to go with 2 by 6 just to get some extra strength in there and here I have a board supporting the ridge this one here is sitting on top of a double 2 by 6 that might be the best option and these could actually be 4 foot on center but that would all depend upon your project you could put one on every board if you wanted double up the ceiling joist to put on Center whatever but this right here is probably going to be a necessity to prevent it from sagging again you could always use a beam some type of a beam with a post also notched the 4x4 here to go around the B or the ridge now this one here is going underneath the place this one here was going was sitting on top of the place this is just another option you might need to go underneath your plates and you might even need to install a larger beam in here too to make everything work out okay and again you could space these out as needed do you need them to put on Center do you need something like this four foot on Center six foot on center I will leave that up to you because this is the end of the video I hope I didn't the first video I made was actually quite long and we are at the end of it so feel free to leave any comments or questions in the description area or comment area and I will answer them as soon as possible thanks for watching you