Lindell some real cowboy writes horse all the time every day all day were holed through it here to getting somebody in a pasture well anyhow a long story short he wanted me to take the tops off these and build a new pair of bottoms for him after I got home with them got to looking out of my thoughts you know it'd be way cheaper just to building a whole new pair of boots personally I've got I guess it didn't weird foot but it's a large size I wear like an eight quadruple e very very high instep so I was never able to go to a store and buy pair of boots that fit so what I'd have to do is I've got a pair of boots that were a little bit too big and if they're wedding to shoot repairment around that was confident I'd take a knife I cut it split in the instep there so I had a little more room if there was a good shoemaker round I'd take it down and it's a bachelor and my feet heard about ninety percent of the time because of that so number of years ago we were down there to horsey on Texas a nursery boot maker huh booth set up I got to talking to him I thought what tech I'll try it so I sat down he measured my foot we kind of designed what I wanted five or six months later get pair of boots and lay on so immediately open them up look out where they look good sit down and put them on stand up I walk around my first comment was there must be something wrong with these boots because my feet don't hurt ideally I should be able to build a pair of boots a week when a customer wants a pair of boots we take a set of measurements with trace both feet the outline of both feet we take actually about ten measurements of the foot basically what type of a boot they want or what style of booth they want what types of leather the colors the next thing we do is we build the last I'll take a last it's pretty close to what her foot is here and kind of measured like that and then I'll take those measurements and transfer them onto the last good handmade boot well last four or five pair of factory boots so we've cut the tops out we cut a lining put lining on it put your top beading in this is actually has some stiffening material behind here on the front panel and then the same as you can see on the back panel and then once we get all that glued together we could do that together with contour with rubber cement will transfer this stitch pattern here onto the leather and we go over here to a little sewing machine and we start stitching this portion of the boot here is called the BAM so we'll cut two vamps and they're basically cut in this shape here and then we tape those with put them in a bucket of water we soak them until they're saturated and then I stretch them over this board this is called a cramping board and what this does creates the general shape of what this vamp is going to be like takes most stretch out of the leather through here the next step is we'll draw a tongue pattern on here and I'll trace around here with with an and then we'll cut that out and there's number of ways you can do it I do a pair of scissors traditional boot makers would use a knife and the vent would go on much like up right there and I go to the big stitching machine in which ditch the edges and at that point not something that looks like this right here I know three or four boot makers it's got two and a three-year wait on boots just play a little bit of water on this back counter here kind of soften it up get it's a little here to turn these inside out if you start folding the top in I throw out the bucket water up to about here and I'd let it soak until this is everything down here is soaked through saturated and then we would go put it on our last and what we do to put it on last we just take that last we set dinner like that I'd pull it down over the toe as tight as I can get it and then I'd nail that toe down to the insula and then at that point I put back on the little stand here and then I would go around this and I pull blimey and I'd build the vamp up over here I pack it to the insole you see the last is sticking up outside the boot and drive that last down in there cackle the wrong heel I pull it down to the point we actually get all the stretch out of the leather especially in this portion right here when I pull on that you'll see it beat up and actually sweat little water coming out there's kind of what our bottoms going to look like there's the insole I stitched this portion kind of to it just hold it this is this glued down the hill our welt would have run around through here it would have been stitched on this with wood pegs okay I would trim the sole rough trim the sole to match the around the well and stuff then I go over to this old machine rank here and that was built especially distant too so the soles on the boots I would come in here and I go down through here all the way around here and up here and I put little the pegs about so no more than quarter-inch part I put two rows those pegs in okay and that's what holds this portion of the soul to the insole with moderate care and I mean maybe washing them off occasionally probably never polishing them they're getting about three and a half to four years out of the pair of boots I'll kind of taper the edges down there so it blends in nice looks nice polish all this get it down as slick as I can or slick as you can get some leather and then I'll stack the heel the heel height is measured at the side seam your boob here you want or at least five eighths inch what they call toe spring here in the front this last here I can put an inch an inch and 5/8 heel on if you don't have enough toe spring you can't get your foot forward okay shape the heel to whatever the customer desires polish yet give them a visual examination make sure everything's right then I pull the last out we stepped out on the deal I'm gonna stand like that we push down here and that last breaks and then we grab the boot by the heel just pull it off over the good big makers tell me the good boot makers do not put they don't cover up the end of their pegs in there so people can see to go that's basically I think Glenn booth told me or about eight or nine years old and I defy anybody to go find a pair of factory boots that would live under these conditions in last eight or nine years