i-adjective + na-adjective + noun How do I use an i-adjective and na-adjective together to describe a noun? For example, how do I say "beautiful, red torii"? > (na-adjective): beautiful torii > (i-adjective): red torii

I think you have the following options:

> 1.
> a beautiful [red _torii_ ]
> a [beautiful, red] _torii_
>
> 2.
> a red [beautiful _torii_ ] (a little strange)
> a [red, beautiful] _torii_
>
> 3.
> a red and therefore beautiful _torii_
>
> 4.
> a [beautiful, red] _torii_
> ~~a beautiful and therefore red _torii_~~
>
>


The combination of "red" and "beautiful" is a bit biased, because something can be beautiful _because_ it is red, but not be red because it is beautiful (which would have to be ). This plays into the translation, so could only sensibly mean that and are thought of as separate qualities.

Of course, is also special in that one can also say

> 5.
>


which I think would usually be taken as equivalent to (3), but could also mean (2).